Curse

hurric · Jan 11, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

No wonder when few weeks ago I went to sell my mallyx shields and in euro dist someone was selling it for like 10-15k. I was like wtf! I thought these shields are rare and hard to get as I worked my ass off and finally after like 10 times of opening mallyx chest they finally dropped for me but I kept both shields and gave up idea of making any money off them.

imo, if someone was ferried there once with all 4 quests done, they should get their accounts back. If they went back there again for more mallyx freebie, then they brought it on themselves, esp if they're veteran players who should know better.

I'm really glad Anet took this step so if you earned mallyx stuff honestly, you won't get short end of stick. Anyways, Anet has bad QA but awesome logging. those guys who feel they were ferried should just send a report but if you went there again then it's kinda your fault.

Tom Swift · Jan 11, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by lishi

but they clearly said they where very careful on banning those.

Who i should trust?

Hmmm.... ANet clearly said "There is no polar bear mini."

And have claimed to be "very careful" about banning in the past only to unban several who had been wrongfully banned.

Now, I wonder, who should I trust?

lol - my trust in anything ANet says disappeared a long long time ago.

-Sonata- · Jan 11, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by lishi

but they clearly said they where very careful on banning those.

Who i should trust?

Like you, I'd believe Anets number of 117. Considering the timespan this was happening, the number of people that go through DoA in a day, or for that matter any given hour, 117 is a relative low number. That says to me they were careful as to who they punished and who they didn't.

With that said, I still stand by an earlier statement in which I say that, without much doubt, I'm sure there are a few who are truly innocent in this matter -ie-A first time DoA'er who knows nothing about the ins and outs of the area and simply got caught up in the fiasco in a PUG. Yes, it's unlikely, but not impossible. I remember my first arrival in DoA. I had no clue what it involved and who Mallyx was and what it really takes to get to him. This type of scenario would probably be the only semi-valid reason I would have to have to lift the ban if I was in the position to do so.

So in the end, good riddance to those who knew something was out of the ordinary, or was directly involved. Our game is better off without them. To those who are truly caught, by mistake, in the cross fire, I hope you make it back soon.

VitisVinifera · Jan 11, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

this game is going the same path as Diablo 2.

I'd say in this case, both ends are wrong: anet for leaving this not-so-hidden outpost in the game (who's in charge at anet, seriously???!??!?), and the people who exploited it.

I just hope the people offering xx stacks of armbraces for whatever super rare mini find themselves involuntarily out of the bidding.

pochoWICKED · Jan 11, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by stefke86

Honestly, i think when 117 people are smart enough to actually hack Anets servers I say, employ them, they'll probably do better that the current team out there.

Amen to that.
/pray

BTW it wasn't a hack.......=)

Shadows Soul Reaper · Jan 11, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Ok I am sorry to say Why was 116 players banned for a using a Exploit ????

When Anet said they made the place to test and some one used a hack to get in there ok they should know who was the first in there as u know the 117 that have been banned and instead of banning the player u should give him a job of being the first player out of mils that play the game to hack it.

and why did Anet leave it open for the first person to hack it to get in it....

and no i am not one of the banned ...

Molock · Jan 11, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Originally Posted by MsMassacre

Nobody familiar enough with the game to know who mallyx is can realistically claim to believe the shortcut to him was not cheating.

I have to agree with that.. people who were new to DoA however might of belived that the outpost was ligit, especially if they were only there for a few second and didn't notice that it was completely empty..

Error of My Ways · Jan 11, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

I was one of the 117. I was told about the exploit from an ex-guildie of mine at that time he told me to come to his Guild Hall and see when I asked about details. I was very skeptical as to the means of obtaining this town in the first place. My party (of two others that were perma-banned) did 4 runs with and without the needed quests. After my findings I deleted all my quest rewards, removed my character from the outpost, and opened up a support ticket with Guild Wars Support and informed my alliance leaders to warn their guilds.

They said that they appreciated my findings and that people like me help keep the game running smooth. Two days later, I try and log on to my account and it says that I am permanently banned. This is what I get when I try and help? I got no reward for testing the exploit, only a ban and a kick in the face.

Bryant Again · Jan 11, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

this game is going the same path as Diablo 2.

I'd say in this case, both ends are wrong: anet for leaving this not-so-hidden outpost in the game (who's in charge at anet, seriously???!??!?), and the people who exploited it.

How is ANet at fault for people hacking into the area? If anything it's hacker bait.

...In which case, that's a smart move on ANet's part.

Arkantos · Jan 11, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by Shadows Soul Reaper

Ok I am sorry to say Why was 116 players banned for a using a Exploit ????

When Anet said they main the place to test and some one used a hack to get in there ok they should know who was the first in there as u know the 117 that have been banned and instead of banning the player u should give him a job of being the first player out of mils that play the game to hack it.

and why did Anet leave it open for the first person to hack it to get in it....

and no i am not one of the banned ...

1) Why would ANet hire someone who broke the rules they agreed to? Sure,
they may know a thing or two about coding, but why would they trust him after he broke the agreement?

2) Nobody knows why it was still in the game, nobody knows how it was accessed. Using that as an argument is pointless because nobody has facts to prove someone wrong.

chaoticimajar · Jan 11, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by Shadows Soul Reaper

Ok I am sorry to say Why was 116 players banned for a using a Exploit ????

When Anet said they made the place to test and some one used a hack to get in there ok they should know who was the first in there as u know the 117 that have been banned and instead of banning the player u should give him a job of being the first player out of mils that play the game to hack it.

and why did Anet leave it open for the first person to hack it to get in it....

and no i am not one of the banned ...

this game is based on your computer so most of the files you can just get to... takes someone who can hack something on his/her own computer...

freaky naughty · Jan 11, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by Molock

I have to agree with that.. people who were new to DoA however might of belived that the outpost was ligit, especially if they were only there for a few second and didn't notice that it was completely empty..

Mmhmm but when they skip all the requirements for the quest how natural does it seem then? How many quests in GW just skip four of the most important parts of an ELITE MASTER quest just because someone in your party already beat it?

Mickey · Jan 11, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Duncan a few months ago?

To Freaky Naughty.

chaoticimajar · Jan 11, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Hk DavidV

Yes I was also banned for this. Yes 1 person did this and it spread everywhere and he did not hack the game all he did is make a prog to make you instantly go to the town when you click on an outpost.

All he did is go to DoA and gather up people and I just happen to be one of him
and I never thought it would result like this.

yes my thoughs exactucally you told me about it and i though the same thing i think anet should have address'd this right away not letting it just florish and let others try it

Lance Lloyd · Jan 11, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

I actually know like, I'll say 40 of the guys who got banned although i didn't even know the existence of this exploit myself. Maybe even more since I was in their alliance for some long months. And I honestly think that even if they SHOULDN'T have done that and that it is wrong, Anet can only blame themselves because they left that glitch. They gotta take their responsabilities.
I do think that the guys who did hack the programm ( if they even did coz no doubt some Anet peeps told people around them ) deserve getting a permanent ban, but no way the others should.
I also think that Anet should maybe more concentrate on getting all the thousands of bots banned, and the ip's aswell, but ofcourse they buy more games, so they don't say anything : GG anet.
Most of these players have spend a couple thousand hours each playing GW. And now they got banned because ANet isn't capable do do there job correctly. None of this would ever have happened if they corected this exploit when they had to.

Arkantos · Jan 11, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Mistake? They could've had that outpost in the game for testing.

Nonetheless, ANet can't be held responsible for something that can only be reached via hacking.

If the outpost was supposed to be removed/deleted/whatever and was not, that is a mistake. If that's not the case, my post is irrelevant and so is the one I quoted.

Bryant Again · Jan 11, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Inde

Bryant Again

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

...This hidden outpost existed strictly for testing purposes and was never accessible through normal play...

I knew I read that somewhere. Gratzi.

Azarr#1 · Jan 11, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

Why would they have an invisible town out there that a hacker could get into in the first place. I have an instinct that if theres a town for Mallyx then theirs a town for Dunkan that can be hacked and people can get into that and repeat him. where it is or how to get to him I have no clue Im no C++ program writer But if this game can be hacked as easily as people say it can then Maybe I should become one and Put 20 stacks of ecto on my account and sell the gold and make my personal life a bit easy from what I hear 200ectos goes for about 100dollars in real life. So Anet better get their act in gear and make it so people cant hack this game so easily. other wise nobody will play it anymore and these supposid test areas should gotten rid of.

Arkantos · Jan 11, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

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Originally Posted by Azarr#1

Why would they have an invisible town out there that a hacker could get into in the first place. I have an instinct that if theres a town for Mallyx then theirs a town for Dunkan that can be hacked and people can get into that and repeat him. where it is or how to get to him I have no clue Im no C++ program writer But if this game can be hacked as easily as people say it can then Maybe I should become one and Put 20 stacks of ecto on my account and sell the gold and make my personal life a bit easy from what I hear 200ectos goes for about 100dollars in real life. So Anet better get their act in gear and make it so people cant hack this game so easily. other wise nobody will play it anymore and these supposid test areas should gotten rid of.

No programming is perfect. ANet were not planning on someone hacking the client. If GW was easy to hack, it would be hacked much more. But it isn't hacked a lot, so it's not that easy to hack.

Venus Anu · Jan 11, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

if this is something they have known about for months like someone posted earlier and the bans only happened wednesday night, then they know who hacked it a month or so ago.
So did this person and a few of his buddies exploit the "hack"? and they only decided to ban people after it was publically posted? People went to check it out... banned.
So my question is who is the hacker affiliated with at Anet that they were able to do this for so long and get away with it?